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Post by tomterific on May 21, 2005 12:31:09 GMT -5
Citizens who expect the town government to act on situations such as stolen campaign signs need to face reality. Nothing will be done, at least not until after the election. At the last council meeting, a councillor questioned the Town Manager about campaign irregularities. The answer "I'll look into it". So, IF she does look into it, when will the voting public learn the outcome? Not until after the election. Result: the dirty-tricks-players win, the honest citizens lose.
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Post by JohnW on May 21, 2005 15:03:08 GMT -5
The WTXA appearance on the Friday Rick Garry show on Channel 14 brought out a couple of significant new issues. Board of Education is currently preparing a policy for use of Cottone Field. There's nothing in the draft version pertaining to night time use. Cathy Bagley did say they will have to review lights if they get installed. But, the statement made on the Let-There-Be-Lights video about only having 13 games and maximum of 200 hours of high school teams practice is VERY premature. Recreation leagues are already using the field. Sanzaro/O'Connor/Suppiwich have no basis for their claims of that limited night usage.
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Post by JohnW on May 21, 2005 15:06:15 GMT -5
One of the callers on the Friday Garry TV show made an interesting request. He said that the Let'There-Be-Lights team had never presented themselves on live TV and had never put themselves in a position to be questioned by the public. I think that O'Connor has declined invitations to appear. He did ask that the O'Connor group get onto Channel 14 before the election and take questions. I'd also request that they do that.
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Post by standish on May 21, 2005 15:17:20 GMT -5
I don't think I lose by being honest, even if I lose in the short term. The real loser is the cheater.
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Post by morganika on May 21, 2005 17:37:26 GMT -5
Shame on this whole town, the residents and council alike behave badly and are corrupt. Stealing my sign won't change my vote. My sign hasn't been stolen....yet. I do know Question Number 1 and 2 won't get my vote and neither will poorly behaved council members.
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Post by SyZyGy on May 22, 2005 14:26:33 GMT -5
Well, it appears that the cowards and thugs are at it again - stealing or destroying the signs of the CRG-PAC - not only from new locations, but from sites which have been hit similarly before. More complaints, I have heard, have been filed with the WPD to encourage them to find and prosecute the perpetrators of these infringements of our free speech and voting rights (maybe a federal offense which US attorney for CT, Kevin O'Connor, might have to take an interest in .... interesting possibility!
I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't right now some properties which are training their webcams or secruity cams in the directions of certain, legally protected, political signs and the adjacent streets (perhaps some with IR lenses). Can anyone say Roddy King? Wethersfield, the Council, the BOE/WPS and the sports establishment might wind up with some very interesting footage!
I have a pretty good hunch that the "kids" who Bonnie Therrien is "blaming" these crimes on age are older than 14 and younger than 45. Isn't really easy for Bonnie to blame it on the kids, when she has at present ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF.
Poor kids. They have been brainwashed by those who have blatantly and repeated demonized of a group of elders in town. Once this formerly respected group has been branded as being demons, the source of all of the "woe" that these poor, deserving, denied and neglected children are being subjected to), these same "young" impressionable "kids" feel justified in taking matters into their own hands. Poor kids!
Poor us! Sounds like something that happened in Germany about 60-70 years ago under another Führer. There, the purported demons were portrayed as being the Jewish Germans and as a result, multiple millions of these human souls were exterminated by the brainwashed followers of the Third Reich's Führer. Then, the cry was: 'Deutschland Über Alles'. Everything was allowed - to achieve the end. Then the US came to the rescue.
(Or was that the KKK and their demonization of the non-white races here on our own US homeland turf; they felt justified in doing unspeakable, inhumane and illegal things to those who they saw as demons. The US Dept. of Justice finally stepped in.)
Apparently the implicit cry in Wethersfield is now: "Sports Über Alles" and dam* the Charter, dam* the Constitutions (State / Federal) and dam* the social contract, conventions and courtesies among "neighbors."
Who will rescue us from such little Führers and their brainwashed "children"?
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Post by standish on May 22, 2005 21:38:51 GMT -5
Well, this board's quiet today and tonight. Perhaps it's because of the phone bank that's underway. I got a call from someone who identified himself as being on the Wethersfield High School Football Team. He urged me to vote "No" to #1 and "Yes" to #2. When I told him I was voting "NO" to #2, he said: "Do you want to restrict the height of lights to 14 feet?" I explained that a zoning exemption on town property, for everything (not just lights), on all 112 properties, totalling more than 800 acres, was a much bigger playing field than he defined. He seemed surprised. To him, it was all about lights. I guess nobody told him otherwise. Unfortunately, that's true for most people in town. They think it's only about lights. Another person I know got a call from someone named "Joe". Any more reports?
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Post by morganika on May 23, 2005 4:44:58 GMT -5
No one has called our home, but I think it would be a big mistake on their part if they did.
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Post by tooold on May 23, 2005 8:10:12 GMT -5
wow, morganika your thinly veiled threats are along the same line as syzgy's. what a nice group of people.
posts with this type of verbiage tend to make a statement about the person writing in. on a bell curve, you probably are not within normal limits, either of you.
there are many that post with fact, which stand on their own merit and are probably decent people with a valid opinions.
anger is a very human response but most can control it. i don't want to meet either of you in a dark alley.
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Post by morganika on May 23, 2005 8:17:11 GMT -5
I do not recall threatening anyone, thinly veiled or otherwise. I only mean that the person who calls my home to tell me how to vote will receive the same treatment all telephone solicitors receive at my home. I will tell them to please not call again and hang up. What's so threatening about that? I work hard and don't care to be bothered at home by telephone solicitors and Lightheads.
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Post by tooold on May 23, 2005 8:20:11 GMT -5
i respect the explanation and i agree about solicitors, which wasn't in the referenced post.
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Post by tomterific on May 23, 2005 8:55:56 GMT -5
I eagerly await a phone call, I hope I'm home when it comes. I will politely ask the following: Your Full Name; Do You Know what the full impact of a YES on Q-2 is? If that should happen, I'll post the results on the board.
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Post by hodiddly on May 23, 2005 13:24:28 GMT -5
syzygy, are you honestly comparing what is taking place in Wethersfield, present day to Nazi, Germany and KKK in the 50's and 60's. I will admit to being slightly torn on this issue, and I will also not condone the theft or vandalism of opinion signs on someone's private property, but COME ON! First of all, political signs of any kind are obtrusive, and I will never have one on my property, no matter how strongly I feel on any matter. Secondly, theft and vandalism of said signs has been going on forever and should come to no surprise to anyone. Your comments reflect someone in serious need of some therapy, and take away from the validity of some one such as "ThinkingMama" who manages to present her opinions in a clear and concise manner without sounding like a stark raving lunatic.
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Post by standish on May 23, 2005 13:57:36 GMT -5
...what is taking place in Wethersfield, present day to Nazi, Germany and KKK in the 50's and 60's... First of all, political signs of any kind are obtrusive, and I will never have one on my property... Secondly, theft and vandalism of said signs has been going on forever... Your comments reflect someone in serious need of some therapy, and take away from the validity of some one such as "ThinkingMama" who manages to present her opinions in a clear and concise manner without sounding like a stark raving lunatic. The number (dozens of "Play by the Rules" signs) and pattern of sign theft all over town (same modus operandi... either frame in place with sign removed or flattened with bent frame) entails suppression of political speech. This practice is not the same as the random pranks of kids from times past. I believe that this difference is the analogy to which Syzygy refers... to varying degree. Nor does your personal disdain for lawn signs in any way diminish the act. Your ad hominem attack about his/her sanity is also a bit over the top. Your efforts, by innuendo against "ThinkingMama", to discredit her intelligent arguments against throwing out zoning, are weak at best, and hostile toward her, at worst.
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Post by tomterific on May 23, 2005 14:19:18 GMT -5
The complete disregard by town officials, both elected, appointed, and paid staff is very disturbing. For more than 1 week, the sign stealing problem has been happening and, not only is nothing done, officials say it's not an important issue. That's almost worse than the implications of the Q2-YES vote.
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