Stadium Lights on Cottone Field

[SyZyGy]

Hodiddy,

You want information; Lou wants information; I want information.

Here is a poll where all registered users of this forum (all 230 or so of us) will be able to make our feeling known. Lurkers don't get counted; another reason for them to register here!

For those who monitor only the current (now) 15 posts, you will need to go to:

Wethersfield.com Forum >> General Discussion >> General Board >> Stadium Lights on Cottone Field

Hope you find the outcome helpful.

Sy

[standish]

Syzygy- You missed another option in your poll: Yes- If a lighting system that addresses neighborhood and TPZ issues can be accomplished.

Of course, this option assumes a change to, or waiver of, the height limitation.

[hodiddly]

Where, exactly would we put a High School football field at Millwoods?

[Wethersfield.com]

I think by having the poll up there is a great Idea. I see a guest has voted in the poll, I'll check that out to se why and how it happened.

[oldetowne]

I agree with Rick and Leigh.

[SyZyGy]

Syzygy- You missed another option in your poll: Yes- If a lighting system that addresses neighborhood and TPZ issues can be accomplished. Of course, this option assumes a change to, or waiver of, the height limitation.

I configured the poll on the assumption that the "TPZ" process allowed the lights to be placed there and also presumed that the PZC/ZBA process would involve (for the first time) a stipulated amelioration of the neighborhood's distress from extended use of the field while under the lights. Of course if there is political prestidigitation which trumps the game rules, all bets are off.

[standish]

Since those assumptions are not apparent from, nor inherent to, the poll options, the results will likely be skewed. You may have made those assumptions, but, I certainly haven't. At present, I can't vote for any of the options, though I have formed an opinion. It's rather like knowing that existing lights are "grandfathered", but, not including that language in the referendum question.

[hodiddly]

So much for my simple "Yes or No" question - you guy's must be attorney's with that vocabulary - I still would like to know where the heck you think we could put a football field at Millwoods? I dont see that as a viable option.

[SyZyGy]

To both standish and hodiddy,
the solution may be that each of you should start your own poll. Maybe we should then, after all of the polling is over, have another poll to determine which poll was the most meaningful. I did the best I could at that time, sandwiching peeks and pokes amoung other chores.

[hodiddly]

syzygy, I think your poll is great - I only wish that I knew what some of those words meant that you and standish were trading back there! I still dont think that Millwoods is an option for a football field, and would like to hear more opinions on that. My original question was intended to extrapilate (not sure on that, but it sounded good) opinions from all, assuming that all the stars were in alignment for the lights (P&Z, ZBA, BOE, etc...) would you want the lights on Cottone, Yes or No?

[SyZyGy]

hodiddy,

You are starting to sound a little too much like LouS, who likes information, facts and cogent interpretations, but who is not inclined to be equally forthright with details about his plan for getting the lights on Cottone. His overstated (and unqualified, per the poll) "yes" was far too brief an answer in light of his roll in these matters.

I'll make you a deal.

WHEREAS only 30.8% of the electors of the Town of Wethersfield voted on the referenda of 5/24/2005, and

WHEREAS there are only (I checked this time) 251 people (or should I say entities) are registered on this forum, then,

BE IT RESOLVED that, when 251 x 30.8% +1 people (78) have participated in the poll which I started today, I will succinctly answer your question. Then you may either interopolate or extrapolate the data to your heart's content. ;D

With opposition or conjunction, I shall remain,
Always,
Syzygy

[Jubashero]

I assumed that privately funded upkeep includes user's fees that will be charged by the BOE per event.

[SyZyGy]

Ah, there's the rub. You need to choose your words very carefully here.

It's one thing to "charge" for the use of the field (for private or non-Wethersfield use) and it's something else to actually COLLECT those fees (half or more at the time the field is booked and the balance upon the day of planned use).

Obviously a mechanism will have to be in place to schedule and charge and then COLLECT **ALL** of the true costs for the per-event field usage, without letting inept planning (including the contract for use), bookkeeping and politics get in the way. Maybe someone should bring up to Bonnie and Pat exactly how this is to work so that no private or non-Wethersfield group gets a "free ride" on OUR citizens' backs without the specific and special permission of the BOE and/or the TC.

If this is not done right the tax paying people of Wethersfield will get battered a second time.

[hodiddly]

hodiddy,

You are starting to sound a little too much like LouS, who likes information, facts and cogent interpretations, but who is not inclined to be equally forthright with details about his plan for getting the lights on Cottone. His overstated (and unqualified, per the poll) "yes" was far too brief an answer in light of his roll in these matters.

I'll make you a deal.

WHEREAS only 30.8% of the electors of the Town of Wethersfield voted on the referenda of 5/24/2005, and

WHEREAS there are only (I checked this time) 251 people (or should I say entities) are registered on this forum, then,

BE IT RESOLVED that, when 251 x 30.8% +1 people (78) have participated in the poll which I started today, I will succinctly answer your question. Then you may either interopolate or extrapolate the data to your heart's content.

With opposition or conjunction, I shall remain,
Always,
Syzygy

syzygy, Two things: First, just when I think you are showing signs of normalcy, you turn around and prove what a tool you really are. I asked a simple question - If you had your choice, all things considered, would you like to have lights on the field - I prefaced it by saying that it was in no way a scientific poll - just a yes or no question, that you might have in an everyday conversation, nothing more. I know there are factors involved, but my point was to hear what people really thought of lighting the field and nothing more. Second, You (or anyone else) have not responded to my question of where you would put a football field at Millwoods? that is unrealistic in my opinion.

Simplistically,
hodiddly

[oldetowne]

"I assumed that privately funded upkeep includes user's fees that will be charged by the BOE per event."

One other issue - is the town going to be allowed to control access and collect fees since we accepted state money to put in the turf?